[8] Govan is Baile a' Ghobhainn (the smith's town) in Scottish Gaelic. Over the years the Wine Alley had been severely neglected by the council and in the 1980s like a lot of places in Britain people were faced with high unemployment, drug abuse and crime, it continued to get worse and the homes were in such a bad state due to continued council neglect and lack of investment that they were demolished by 1995 and the people scattered to the 4 corners of Govan and beyond.http://www.acumfaegovan.com We protect your brands globally and help consumers find your wines. Community service. Call now (425) 271-4501; Address. Within 10 years, Glasgow Corporations repair and maintenance service to the area had declined noticeably because the Corporation was simply not interested. He said: "So I had a house and I had a supply, because I knew someone who could get me smack. I attended Harmony Row School and Hills Trust Primary. We had and still have such a loving family even although our parents and grandparents have passed, but Govan made us that way because it was a great community and you knew who your neighbours were. James and Catherine moved to Govan from Ireland and lived on Victoria (Neptune) Street and Langlands Road. I was born in Broomloan Road Ibrox in Govan in 1958. It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick. Through the ages people have lived in houses, building them according to the climate, topography, the material available, and the social and cultural ideas of the time. He had a broken leg, but we cuddled and comforted him until someone with a car was found, hours later, to get him to the vets. I remember two days before we left in 1963, I took her to the Govan Fair, and that was the last one I ever saw. The Murrays were a large family maybe someone remembers them? I went to Hillstrust School until I was 10 then we moved to Nitshill which I was not so fond of, Govan was a great place to live we were always putting on concerts round the backs and folk would hang out the windows to watch the performance there was always stuff going on or buss-runs that our streets would organise and the Govan Fair, Govanites were great. Not a penny in our pockets other than the price of admission to the pictures on a Saturday afternoon and some extra for some sweeties, I remember my grandmother used to give Helen my sweetie coupons from the back of the Ration Book, as she had such a sweet tooth that she would have ate her way through February and March coupons even though it was only January and stores knew we were still going to be rationed for some time to come (I didn't have a sweet tooth so always had coupons to spare). This article is about the district in Glasgow. Does anyone remember going out the back courts and jumping over them? Our parents and our brother were also married there, and we were all Christened there as well. 110m Govan Road Campus . Hi Catherine, I also lived at 100 Harmony Row and also live in Canada. Further, that by becoming involved in social, political, and economic activities, the community of any area can organise itself in such a fashion as to understand that community, or collective power is real. I remember Betty McPhee, Margaret Liversidge, the Gourlay brothers and Brian Wilson.We lived in the top floor for a few years and the moved to bigger flat on first floor with a bathroom. They also discovered in the early days that one gang member was driving about in hired cars. Went to St. Gerards School from January 1959 to December 1962. Delete. During the late 19th century, the population of Govan increased more than tenfold: from 9,000 in 1864 to 95,000 by 1907. Listing details information provided by Stephen Redding. The second outcome was a general agreement among officials to stop using the abusive term of Wine Alley as this served only to reproduce the stigma of the scheme. or. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. Sergeant Angus McIvor and constable Bob McDonald were the two cops who had bravely filmed the gang operating from one of the empty flats. If his western city is invariably "smoky" and even hellish in aspect, throughout his poem "Edinburgh" the Scottish capital is glimpsed "high in . It was just before I packed in this job that I met Sean Damer when he came to our house to some of the family in 1974. he had come to live in Wine Alley to see for himself why it seemed to be such a horrible place to outsiders. He was able to give police precise details of the drug operation Burnside was running and the names of his associates. I screamed blue murder, he wanted to pull my pants down, but no way I letting him do that to me. Their children's names were John, Michael, Christopher, Bridget and Edward. As a university sociologist, So, has Glasgow and other cities always been in the hands of comprehensive planners who take an overview of all the parties involved? [30] British Shipbuilders' sale of Govan to the Norwegian firm was completed in 1988, and the yard was renamed Kvaerner Govan. I was born in Govan in 1950 at 10 Pearce Street across from the P.I., there was only one close in Pearce Street. Komunitn organizcia. A Victor Harbor businessman is forging ahead with bold plans for a $350m marina, apartment, hotel and convention centre project near The Bluff, despite the local council opposing major development . A big gang of kids would all go to the pictures on Saturday afternoon and one kid would pay to get in and then would go round to the fire escape door and open it and let the rest of the kids in for free. This work was focused on parent-child. Resources were stretched as detectives dealt with high levels of violence including murder - much of it drug related. 100m Freshair Salon . Add your own memories or stories by clicking here. Clyde News. 122m The Govan Shed . The church, situated at the west end of the village of Govan, and about 100 yards from the Clyde, was built in 1826, and is a plain structure containing 1096 sittings: the . Somewhere, communication had broken down so completely, that while the latter felt powerless to do anything about the situation, the remedies of the former only made the situation worse. or. Finally, Darners last thoughts on a solution to Mooreparks spiralling problems were that it could be found in Community Planning. One summer, I walked to the steamie and managed to get some photos of it. Socialites Karrueche Tran, left, and Christina Milian attend the Los Angeles premiere of Fox's 'Empire' at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome on January 6, 2015 in Hollywood, California. As I recall they sold very trendy tops marketed as Trendy. By the 1860s, the village needed a higher order of administration and it was made a burgh in 1864, under the General Police (Scotland) Act 1862. 3 [42] The ships were built by the following companies: Robert Napier & Company, Randolph Elder & Company, Dobbie Hedderwick & Co., Dobie & Company, Mackie & Thomson, Smith & Rodgers, London & Glasgow Engineering and Iron Shipbuilding Co. Ltd., William Beardmore & Company, John Elder & Company, Fairfield Shipbuilding & Eng. Great memories. Vezi mai multe de la Sunny Govan Memories pe Facebook. I attended Harmony Row School and Hills Trust Primary. Wall furniture and coverings, clothing, beds and bedding, carpets and furniture were badly affected by fungi while many of the inhabitants suffered physical illnesses related to the damp atmosphere, financial anguish at the cost of replacement and (in some cases), mental problems brought on by the worry caused by the above problems in the first place! Local people were also too scared to speak out for fear of reprisals. It seemed a dangerous idea but worth the risk if they could dent a hole in a major heroin dealing operation. In particular, urban communities are increasingly constrained by both local and governmental authorities, and also by outside economic factors, which can and do prohibit perceived changes for the better. In the cace of Easterhouse it was the various interested parties of the Eastethoude Community Group who decided to get the authorities to tske notice of their plight by directly intervening their own affairs. Strange thing is that we carried passengers on some days, these passengers had a dinner on board while we discharged the cargo with most never knowing what was happening. Pagini similare. Community organisation. Good memories. In Great Britain, community planning has evolved and not only has it kept its identity, but it has also retained its application as a primary vehicle through which social change is enacted at a local level, by members of the community acting together to improve the lifestyle of the group as a whole. We were also in the Choir at Govan Parish church and in the B.B. Nobody like them in the World. Lesbian actress Raven-Symone showed off her high top fade and her unique backpack at the Los Angeles Premiere of Fox's 'Empire at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, California. 123m New Cafe India Govan . It occurs in the buyers market where access to housing is based on the ability to pay, and it also takes place in the council allocation system where the disadvantaged are lumped together in sink housing schemes. We also have a great selection of craft beers! People were in tears when that shop closed and I'm really delighted that I played a small walk-on part in a Govan institution! Remember, Charlies sweet shop opposite us, where after playing football we were soaked in sweat, you got a glass of lemonade for threepence. [23], It was parodied by the BBC sitcom Rab C. Nesbitt. I'm sure many of these places will have been demolished or renamed but it would be great to hear from anyone who knows of the family or can provide any more details. My mother and grandfather raised me alongside my two sisters and three brothers and various in-laws who moved in and out of the home through the years. Every Christmas I was given a big pile of unsold comics and one day the woman gave me a bob - 12 big penny coins that filled my hand. This is a 12th-century Latin source, but one believed to be based on much earlier materials; it records a place near Dumbarton Rock named Ouania. In 1855, an elaborately carved sandstone sarcophagus was found during digging in the churchyard. Sources It was dedicated to St Constantine, who had been buried at Govan. We went this year to the Fairfield shipyard museum which was very interesting. I was born in 1952 and lived in Golspie St until I was 10 when we moved to Garthamlock. My Aunt Marg & Uncle Jack Johnstone had the paper shop on Govan Road. I have been looking up my family history and her father Michael and all his brothers and sisters were born in Govan between 1884 and 1896. Tel: 0141 440 1999, Fax: 0141 440 1367 , Sources Poor health and low-levels of educational qualifications are offered as secondary parts of the equation. In sum, effective participatory urban management calls for a fundamental rethink from all the players involved, from the local authorities and development agencies, through local (and sometimes international) non-governmental organisations, to the community-based organisations themselve; in redefining their roles and relationships, if something is to be done for the benefit of all. 8/1. Then there was the shake the blanket with my older sisters and friends my turn wasn't coming fast enough so as usual I was whining so they gave me my turn and shake the blanket shake the blanket 1-2-3 they lifted me in the air and let the blanket go results bleeding nose and they all got a right telling off. I lived in Kintra Street from 1946 until 1960 and went to Broomloan Road school then Govan High. I used to go to the Harhill Baths every Friday night.Saturday mornings, afternoons were at the Lyceum or The Plaza Picture Houses. Moreover, there will be no demolition or destruction of any part of Govans heritage on the contrary the important Iron Age site of Doomster Hill will be marked with grass, and not encroached upon by the new housing while a special corridor will link it with Govan Old Parish Church, which is one of the earliest Christian sites in Britain. They were friendly and knowledgable, it was a great experience. Drug and alcohol abuse was a widespread problem and unemployment stood at 30% - three times the national average. Glasgow Green Flagstones at Jocelyn Square in front of the McLennan Arch inform us that this was the site of public executions in the city until 1865. They expect 20 calls a week from officers needing help. In the Wine Alley, I loved the people more than anything. [20], Traditionally viewed as a lower working-class area, Govan has typically supported the Labour Party, but the Scottish National Party (SNP) has also been strong there. Reid was a prominent union leader whose successful 'work in' at the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders in 1971 stopped government attempts to close the yards. Govan is served by community radio station Sunny Govan, broadcasting on 103.5FM to the city of Glasgow and surrounding districts, discussing local issues and providing advice, and with diverse musical output covering soul, hip-hop and reggae. I also went to the Glasgow City Mission which was in Kintra Street, how I loved my childhood. Moorepark is a small area in the Scottish city of Glasgow. We didn't have an inside toilet but had to use one on the landing which served two other families. Providing a family base with a family room in Govan, with weekly meetings in Govan and Easterhouse Providing consistent, non-judgmental support to families and individuals, and home visits to families in crisis I was born 1951 in 57 Nethan St. I was born in Southern General 1971, lived in 1 Elder Street with my mum Ina Quinn and dad Peter Quinn, brothers and sister. The Bookies, Archie and Peter Logan ran their Book from the back court. [4] In 1864, Govan gained burgh status, and was the fifth-largest burgh in Scotland. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. With its bad name, many people from Moorepark could not get jobs while those that could often disguised their addresses and, if they a they moved away because of its bad reputation Gradually, the decrease in services, coupled with, a by now high turnover of tenancie let house, led to the accretion of demoralised families coming into the scheme and all the stories about Moorparks good-for-nothing population seemed to be justified. When we moved to Nitshill in 1060, I realised how much I had loved Govan. A friend called Carol Slater. I remember that when he told me that he had studied at university and that what he was now doing was his job I laughed at his education and his job. I thought you wrote "hides in a fridge and dodges an erection!" . In recent years it has seen major improvements with the building of Glasgow Science Centre and the Glasgow Arc, better known as the Squinty Bridge. Claire Fitzpatrick - I wonder if your Mary is one of our family? I didn't open my mouth, I was sure I was going to jail. It was my first Saturday job and I worked there for about a year until the very day when it closed, which I think was in June 1972. The barbers shop was called "Knop & Joyce" and was at 26 Langlands Road, it opened in 1929 and Harry Knop lived in the next close at 34 Langlands Road. However, there is the potential for tourism development, for example, the planned development of the Govan Old site, which hosts the historically significant stone carvings, has led to the development of the surrounding townscape and new infrastructure. In 1885, the yard moved further west to its present site and was reorganised as the Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company Ltd. Eventually, my dad arrived asking if anyone had handed in a wee lassie. I noticed a post by Murray G. Wondering if we might be related at all? My mum's brother Spinx (George Hewitt) stayed in Teucharhill and my dad's brother Alex Rodgers drove a milk float. 99m New Cafe India Govan . I liked Daddy Boyd although I never had him as a teacher, he was in charge of the rowing club of which I enjoyed many an hour on the Clyde. My Granny, Cassie Donaghey stayed at 9 Orkney Street, Govan where I went at weekends and for holidays (Yeah from Drumchapel). 3 Smith, 1999, p. 40-41 Create New Account. Doublers; Rounders; Kick the Can; Ropes I could go on and on particularly with the little verses we once recited lodged in my brain still! My cousin Pat and I were just reminiscing about memories of the Steamie - which I think I was dragged along to, to help Mrs. Mary Devlin, in about 1965? Another is the horses and carts assembled at Harmony Row. As for our childhood and growing up in Govan we would never change a thing, there was everything in Govan any child wanted and we never ever suffered from boredom after school, we were outside playing peever, rounders, climbing dykes, swimming at the pool and rolling our Easter eggs down the hill at Bellahouston Park. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. Men and Boys by Hugh Cavanagh. Below are memories and stories about Govan posted by visitors to the site. If there is anyone out there that remembers me please contact me :). We all loved living there as Govan was such a great place and had everything you needed, especially four cinemas. In Canada, I joined the Royal Canadian Air Force, and served 37 years before retiring. These were not cleared until well into the 1970s. alebo. No1seems2care. who originated from the Helen Street area of Govan, but are now based further west at Shieldhall. [7] It is now kept inside the church, as part of the Govan Stones museum collection. Mother has an excellent memory and I am attempting to write down stories about; the old shops; events streets and everything. Reading the posts recognised a few names. we were easy pleased in those days. Zabudli ste daje na prstup k tu? I went to St.Anthonys then St.Gerards, great days, I went back in the 70s and hardly recognized anything, even the people were different, if anybody has any info. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to [21], The area has had a reputation for deprivation and poverty, partly due to the construction of housing estates in the 1930s to relieve the overcrowded slum district of The Gorbals, Glasgow. 109m Bells Bar . The Govan ferry was something special for us to go on, either by ourselves or with our mum. Regular bus services, mainly operated by McGill's Bus Services and First Glasgow, offer frequent routes to Glasgow City Centre, as well as to numerous locations in Renfrewshire. Has it always been a democratic, progressive authority and, is it so today? [26], Govan's other major shipbuilding firm was founded in the 1860s as: Randolph, Elder and Company, later becoming John Elder and Company. HP10 9TY. I used to walk up Neptune Street between the two grandparents homes, but even that seems to have been cut off. In fact, within only two years of the first tenants moving into their 7-storey deck-access blocks (in 1972); they had begun to complain about severe dampness, condensation, and water penetration. Will they be full participants at setting the agenda for their locals or are these just pie crust promises?11 Will the same old story of the past three decades resurface where members of local communities are merely informed or consulted about changes in which they have no say?12 Perhaps one of the worst errors that the new regeneration policy is now making is that of ignoring the potential of local housing organisations as important instruments for inclusion and social capital, and their spill over effects of wider social and economic developments and issues.